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MessageSujet: Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4   Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4 Icon_minitimeLun 15 Mai - 22:34

Calmez vous, je ne propose pas ce comparatif, je le cherche.

J'ai en effet reussi à revendre ma DS flashée avec mon M3 SD, et je compte maintenant me procurer une Lite avec un linker. Oui mais voilà, lequel choisir??

Si je suis extrêmement content du M3 SD, force est de constater que la supercard est nettement moins chere. Et de loin.

Le nouveau ezflash4 parait lui aussi très prometteur, et d'un prix intermédiaire.

Alors voilà, que choisir?

Autant la supercard me plairait, mais sa compatibilité faiblarde en GBA m'inquiète, et surtout je n'ai truové nulle part quelqu'un qui teste la lecture des roms nes, sms, pce, gb, gbc en natif (sans avoir à se compiler une grosse rom gba quoi), ce qui est essentiel pour moi.

Bref, si vous avez des infos, je suis archi preneur.

Idem pour le flashage de la console. Quel linker offre la plus grande simplicité pour la manoeuvre?
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MessageSujet: Re: Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4   Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4 Icon_minitimeLun 15 Mai - 23:30

Pour le flashage, M3 + passkey 2 me semble simplicime, mais je n'ai jamais essayé autrechose.

Sinon il parait que la supercard consome nettement plus aussi, je pense que le M3 vaut plus le cout.

Je ne connais pas la Ezflash
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MessageSujet: Re: Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4   Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4 Icon_minitimeJeu 25 Mai - 14:02

Salut,

Je me pose exactement la meme question :

mini M3 ou EZ4 ?

En effet je fais le tour des forums et le choix s'avère plus que difficile.

L'EZ4 est exactement de la taille d'une cartouche GBA, mais le port mni-SD est sur le côté, donc impossible de sortir la carte sans sortir le linker. Il n'y a apparament pas de ressort somme dans le M3 pour ejecter la mini-SD.

Le M3 lui, dépasse de 2mm sur une DS classique, le slot mini-SD est sur le devant donc plus accessible.

Des 2 côtés les teams bossent sur une compatibilité maximum et en sont rendues quasiment au meme point. Les homebrews marchent sur les 2... Le prix du EZ4 est inférieur à celui du M3... Le passkey EZ est moi pratique qu'un passcard...

Bref si vous avez des bons sites d'infos...
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MessageSujet: Re: Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4   Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4 Icon_minitimeJeu 25 Mai - 16:20

Twid a écrit:
Le passkey EZ est moi pratique qu'un passcard...

Bref si vous avez des bons sites d'infos...

avec la sortie du MAX medial launcheur et du PASSCARD (3) le probleme ne se pose plus (je pense) puisqu'ils se targent de lancer tout les linkers
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MessageSujet: Re: Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4   Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4 Icon_minitimeJeu 25 Mai - 20:51

Le supercard est bien moin chère que le M3, qu'a le M3 de plus que le supercard? Merci!
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Kayb
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MessageSujet: Re: Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4   Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4 Icon_minitimeVen 26 Mai - 12:23

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MessageSujet: Re: Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4   Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4 Icon_minitimeVen 26 Mai - 14:25

hummm sur www.winsunx.com le prix de l'ez4 et celui du m3 c'est kiff kiff
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snoopnico
Petit_M3



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MessageSujet: Re: Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4   Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4 Icon_minitimeVen 26 Mai - 16:22

Salut,

Pour moi qui est testé le supercard et le M3, il n'y a plus photo le M3 est de loin pour:

La conso eletrique

La qualité

Le media launcheur

Le launch des emuations

Même si il est vrai que le supercard ne m'a pas trop deçus (qulques probléme au launch avec leur superpass2 de pas trop bonne qualité)


Voila A+
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MessageSujet: Re: Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4   Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4 Icon_minitimeVen 26 Mai - 17:55

De toute facon c'est le cas de la plupart des produit commerciaux :

M3 excellent qualité mais cher
Supercard moyenne qualité mais pas chère

Donc apres c'est a toi de voir ! Wink
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MessageSujet: Re: Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4   Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4 Icon_minitimeVen 26 Mai - 17:56

franchement mieux vaut prendre le m3 je préfère mettre un peu plus et avoir de la qualité
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Twid
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MessageSujet: Re: Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4   Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4 Icon_minitimeVen 26 Mai - 18:53

Je suis aussi pour un produit de meilleure qualité mais entre EZ4 et M3 c'est dur... Par contre SC est un cran en dessous.
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MessageSujet: Re: Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4   Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4 Icon_minitimeVen 26 Mai - 22:13

bonjour sa fait depuis un bay que je ne suis plus la course aux linkers donc si quelqu'un peut m'expliquer ce que c'est le media lancher , le passcard3 et le neo lite sa serait gentil ^^
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MessageSujet: Re: Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4   Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4 Icon_minitimeVen 26 Mai - 23:14

twilight_prince93 a écrit:
bonjour sa fait depuis un bay que je ne suis plus la course aux linkers donc si quelqu'un peut m'expliquer ce que c'est le media lancher , le passcard3 et le neo lite sa serait gentil ^^

. . . désoler pas le temps la et puis en plus ... fair des recherche ca coute pas grand choses hein . . .
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MessageSujet: Re: Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4   Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4 Icon_minitimeVen 26 Mai - 23:23

Kayb, ça va?
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MessageSujet: Re: Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4   Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4 Icon_minitimeSam 27 Mai - 13:26

J'ai trouvé un test sur le site yyjoy.com de EZ Flash IV (y'en a aussi sur le site playeradvance.org)

Introduction

The EZ-Flash IV is the long awaited Nintendo DS cart from the EZ-Flash team, known for their quality products with excellent compatibility in the GBA arena. How will they fare with their first NDS product? Keep reading to find out.The EZ-Flash IV (I will be calling it the EZ4 from here on out) is very similar to the EZ-Flash III – except it sports a mini-SD card slot, rather than internal NAND flash memory. As such it requires no external linker device, just a mini-SD card, which of course means that your storage space is limited only by the size of your card.One thing that sets the EZ4 apart from its competitors isthe inclusion of 128 Mbits of PSRAM for Game Boy Advance games to be loaded into, as well as 256 Mbits of internal NOR memory – much the same as the EZ3.The other notable difference to the EZ3 is the fact that there is no longer a real time clock (RTC) built in - whether it be for size or cost reasons - or simply because it is built primarily for running NDS games, which use the DS’s internal clock, and was therefore deemed unnecessary

Packaging
The EZ4 comes in a rather nice cardboard box, even if the colour looks a bit icky. It is labelled nice and simply, athough the check boxes on the side with the different sizes next to them are a tad obsolete, and I’m guessing this is because the EZ4 changed from being an internal memory based cart to a mini-SD based one part way through the development cycle。Inside, a similarly coloured, moulded plastic tray (one of those furry ones) sits which houses the cart, as well as a SD card reader and a USB extension cable, which would be useful if your USB port was in an unhandy place. Noticable is a lack of documentation or even a website address, meaning the customer must do their own online research - something that certainly shouldn’t be the case.The SD reader itself only actually supports normal sized SD cards, but as most mini-SDs come with an adapter to make them fit into a normal SD slot, this shouldn’t be a problem for too many people. One other thing people should be aware of is the fact that the reader is a USB 2.0 device, but does not seem to be backward compatible with USB 1.0 and 1.1 ports when it comes to writing – as I found out the hard way (ok, maybe it wasn’t that hard ).

Hardware
The cart itself is a nice translucent white, which I would imagine would match a ‘Crystal White’ DS Lite quite nicely. The size of the cart is almost exactly the same as a standard GBA cart (perhaps less than a millimetre taller), and sits nice and flush in both my DS and my GBA SP. I don’t own a DS Lite, but being the same size as a GBA cart it’s easy to imagine the EZ4 would stick out the same amount (soon to be rectified when the EZ4 Lite is released).The mini-SD slot is situated on the side of the cart, and the card slides all the way in quite nicely, similar to like it would into a normal card reader, rather than using a spring-based mechanism like other products. To insert it correctly, the writing on the mini-SD should face the same way as the sticker on the EZ4. Getting the mini-SD out, on the other hand, can be quite difficult. I actually thought I had done something wrong the first time I inserted it, because I couldn’t figure out how to remove it again. Turns out all it needed was a little bit of force and a fingernail to hook on to the edge with.eing loaded into the PSRAM.

Compatibility/Performance
For the start of its lifespan, the NDS compatibility for the EZ4 is excellent. I tested a variety of games, including some of the most popular ones, and others that have or had issues in the past with other products. All except for a few worked perfectly, and could be played over Wi-Fi, saved just fine, and I didn’t notice any slowdowns, apart maybe from some very brief pauses when navigating the menus in Metroid Prime Hunters, which is likely the fault of my slow/cheap mini-SD card. The ones that were unplayable for me were Pokemon Dash and Ultimate Spiderman, and there is really no surprise there, as these games have always been problematic with other products. Pokemon Dash failed to run whatsoever, and Ultimate Spiderman was unplayable due to simply locking up every time I attempted to get in game (it even locked up a couple of times prior to that). The only other game I had any minor issue at all with was Castlevania, with the FMV being slow and jerky, and that was almost certainly due once again to my mini-SD, as the FMV is often used as a benchmark test for memory cards, so investing in a quality, fast mini-SD might be a good decision. An excellent compatibility list is maintained over here, and granted, there are a small amount of games I didn’t mention that have issues, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see almost every game in that list be fully compatible in the near future, given the regularity of updates to the software.

A much touted feature of the EZ4 is its GBA compatibility, and is obviously marketed as one of the advantages it has over other products. First to clear a common misconception, which I myself fell prey to. While the PSRAM is limited to 128 Mbits, 256 Mbit GBA roms are still able to run using the NOR memory - but only if they are executed from the GBA loader, rather than the NDS one. This process, however, takse a lot longer than running a smaller sized game, as the 256 Mbit games I tested all took around 5 and a half minutes to copy and run. However, once a rom is loaded in the NOR, it does not have to copied again unless overwritten, and can be loaded instantly from the both the NDS loader (select the movie real icon to view the NOR) and the GBA loader (within the File Manager). A small matter to is that because a real time clock is absent from the EZ4, it can potentially cause problems for games that use one, but unless you intend to play the Pokemon RPGs (which can operate without one anyway, there just won’t be any time-based events), there is once again only a small minority of games which utilize it.

Other than those points, GBA compatibility is excellent. I tested games of all sizes and all save types, and all ran perfectly and saved fine. This is definitely a major advantage over other products, which have slowdowns, bugs and incompatibility issues with a lot of GBA games.

As far as homebrew goes, the news isn’t quite so good. I tested a small selection of homebrew, and applications with the “.ds.gba” extension (formatted for GBA flash carts) work just fine, but I was unable to get any “.nds” homebrew to run – this may because most of these files are designed for hardware similar to the GBAMP, and the EZ4 doesn’t seem to fall into that category. Of course, this could potentially be rectified with software updates in the future.

Multimedia
Hang on, we’re not done yet, as included with the EZ4 client is a modified version of Moonshell for use with your EZ4, meaning you can play videos, listen to music, and view pictures and other documents all from your DS. Since videos have to be converted for viewing on your DS, you’ll need to the easy-to-use Moonshell DPG tools which can be obtained here. Other supported files can be played/viewed as is (eg. MP3, JPG, etc.)

To install Moonshell, copy the ‘moonshell.ds.gba’ file included with the client to your card, using either Explorer or the client. Just a note though, if you do decide to use the client to copy it, it exhibits the ‘not recognised’ bug mentioned earlier, and you will have to rename the file after it has been transferred. Also copy your media files onto the card using Explorer (the client doesn’t like them) - I decided to put mine in a folder called ‘MEDIA’.

To run Moonshell, you just select it like any other file in the loader (DS only), and you will then be presented with the Moonshell interface with which you can browse and play/view your media files. A small matter to note here is the fact that I experienced choppiness in some videos, and once again this is likely due to my mini-SD card, though reducing the frame rate a little bit in Moonshell DPG Tools can usually fix the problem.

Conclusion

Overall, this is definitely a great piece of equipment, and I highly recommend it to people on virtue of its price, performance and size, as well as the excellent support the EZ-Flash Team is giving this product. While NDS compatibility is not perfect, software updates look sure to make this a viable contender in the compatibility stakes in the future. GBA support is one thing that is sure to have a lot of pulling power for the EZ4, and the inclusion of internal memory in the cart ensures that compatibility is top notch - apart from the lack of a real time clock for GBA games, which is a minor disappointment, but as it is in no way integral, the majority of customers are unlikely to notice its absence. As it stands though, the EZ4 has a little bit of catching up to do in the software department, mainly with respect to the NDS side of things, despite being a quality piece of hardware. If things improve significantly, look for a revised score in the future.

Pros:
+Nice value for price
+Size of a GBA cart
+Regular software updates
+NDS compatibility constantly being improved
+Excellent GBA support with the exception of games which utilize the real time clock
+Simple to use
+Multimedia capabilities

Cons:
-No real time clock
-NDS compatiblity needs improvement
-Lack of proper documentation or directions
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MessageSujet: Re: Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4   Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4 Icon_minitimeLun 29 Mai - 17:28

Et Hop :

Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4 M3minisdscminisdez43bw

Ce qui donne M3, SC et EZ4.
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MessageSujet: Re: Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4   Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4 Icon_minitimeLun 29 Mai - 18:25

Ya pas a dire ces consoles sont magnifiques, c'est laquelle à gauche la enavy namel? c'est pas la black? En ce qui concerne ce comparo le M3 il n'est pas slim?
En tout cas l'image est révée Razz
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MessageSujet: Re: Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4   Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4 Icon_minitimeLun 29 Mai - 18:29

la supercard mini me branche + que le m3 mini mais si quelqu'un pouvait m'expliquer les + et les - de la neo lite je pourrait mieu choisir donc svp
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MessageSujet: Re: Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4   Comparatif SC/M3/EZ4 Icon_minitimeLun 29 Mai - 21:58

C'est le M3 mini celui la sur la photo.
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